That is an interesting entray. I am looking for an alternative to Keil
and am playing with the idea of the 150 Rowley Crossworks.
Your article will help me selecting a new IDE.
The CrossConnect though costs about 250 which is a bit of steep an
financial outlay for an experimenter - but perhaps worth it.
Is thee no alternative to the CrossConnect?
All the best
BD
Best Cost/Performance J-TAG Unit
Started by ●March 9, 2012
Reply by ●March 11, 20122012-03-11
Reply by ●March 11, 20122012-03-11
Hi Jerry,
don't know wwhy I assumed you are using the full version of CrossWorks. You are correct that the cost of a JTAG probe is significant comparing to a 150 license.
J-Link EDU is definitely worth the investment for hobbyists but Cross-Connect is the tool made to work best with CrossWorks and the (excellent) support comes from the same company.
Have fun!
Bob
--- In l..., "Jerry" wrote:
>
> --- In l..., "helmutbitter" wrote:
> > I'm a hobbyist too and I'm using CrossWorks as well. As J-TAG I have and use a CrossConnect and a J-Link EDU.
> > My experience is: Both work well and reliable. Advantage of J-Link is endless number of breakpoints and as J-Link EDU it's quite affordable. Advantage of CrossConnect is the remarkable speed. You will notice the difference to the J-Link quite well not only in loading but also in single stepping with the same IDE (CrossWorks). Therefore I mostly use the CrossConnect.
>
> Sounds like the CrossConnect is the way to go. I'm using a Segger J-LINK right now, but it's borrowed from a friend and he's been politely asking for it back for some time now. ;-) I'll start saving my pennies and as soon as I have to surrender the J-LINK to my friend I'll put in an order for a CrossConnect.
>
> I'm very impressed by the speed of CrossWorks when debugging ARM code. It steps so fast through code that the delays are imperceptible. It's the best $150 I ever spent on a tool. The interface is much nicer and cleaner than Eclipse or MPLAB too.
>
> This is in big contrast to my experience with MPLAB and MPLAB X on the high-end PICs where stepping through code is slow and painful.
>
don't know wwhy I assumed you are using the full version of CrossWorks. You are correct that the cost of a JTAG probe is significant comparing to a 150 license.
J-Link EDU is definitely worth the investment for hobbyists but Cross-Connect is the tool made to work best with CrossWorks and the (excellent) support comes from the same company.
Have fun!
Bob
--- In l..., "Jerry" wrote:
>
> --- In l..., "helmutbitter" wrote:
> > I'm a hobbyist too and I'm using CrossWorks as well. As J-TAG I have and use a CrossConnect and a J-Link EDU.
> > My experience is: Both work well and reliable. Advantage of J-Link is endless number of breakpoints and as J-Link EDU it's quite affordable. Advantage of CrossConnect is the remarkable speed. You will notice the difference to the J-Link quite well not only in loading but also in single stepping with the same IDE (CrossWorks). Therefore I mostly use the CrossConnect.
>
> Sounds like the CrossConnect is the way to go. I'm using a Segger J-LINK right now, but it's borrowed from a friend and he's been politely asking for it back for some time now. ;-) I'll start saving my pennies and as soon as I have to surrender the J-LINK to my friend I'll put in an order for a CrossConnect.
>
> I'm very impressed by the speed of CrossWorks when debugging ARM code. It steps so fast through code that the delays are imperceptible. It's the best $150 I ever spent on a tool. The interface is much nicer and cleaner than Eclipse or MPLAB too.
>
> This is in big contrast to my experience with MPLAB and MPLAB X on the high-end PICs where stepping through code is slow and painful.
>
Reply by ●March 11, 20122012-03-11
On 11 Mar 2012, at 08:16, bonzadog wrote:
> That is an interesting entray. I am looking for an alternative to Keil
> and am playing with the idea of the 150 Rowley Crossworks.
> Your article will help me selecting a new IDE.
> The CrossConnect though costs about 250 which is a bit of steep an
> financial outlay for an experimenter - but perhaps worth it.
> Is thee no alternative to the CrossConnect?
Heck--the CrossConnect Lite is a $60 purchase on top of the CrossWorks license when you purchase them together. That's 40% off the price right there If you get a Classic, it's $200. And if you talk to the right person nicely, they usually comp you a CrossConnect Lite.
-- Paul.
> That is an interesting entray. I am looking for an alternative to Keil
> and am playing with the idea of the 150 Rowley Crossworks.
> Your article will help me selecting a new IDE.
> The CrossConnect though costs about 250 which is a bit of steep an
> financial outlay for an experimenter - but perhaps worth it.
> Is thee no alternative to the CrossConnect?
Heck--the CrossConnect Lite is a $60 purchase on top of the CrossWorks license when you purchase them together. That's 40% off the price right there If you get a Classic, it's $200. And if you talk to the right person nicely, they usually comp you a CrossConnect Lite.
-- Paul.
Reply by ●March 11, 20122012-03-11
I can recommend the CrossConnect, as well. I just tried mine with the
SWD adapter (not included) for the first time, on an LPC1343 board, and
it worked OK.
Leon
--
Leon Heller
G1HSM
SWD adapter (not included) for the first time, on an LPC1343 board, and
it worked OK.
Leon
--
Leon Heller
G1HSM
Reply by ●March 11, 20122012-03-11
On 3/11/2012 10:48 AM, Leon Heller wrote:
>
> I can recommend the CrossConnect, as well. I just tried mine with the
> SWD adapter (not included) for the first time, on an LPC1343 board, and
> it worked OK.
>
> Leon
> --
> Leon Heller
> G1HSM
>
What make and model of SWD adapter are you using?
Howard
>
> I can recommend the CrossConnect, as well. I just tried mine with the
> SWD adapter (not included) for the first time, on an LPC1343 board, and
> it worked OK.
>
> Leon
> --
> Leon Heller
> G1HSM
>
What make and model of SWD adapter are you using?
Howard
Reply by ●March 11, 20122012-03-11
Am 11.03.2012 17:12, schrieb Paul Curtis:
> On 11 Mar 2012, at 08:16, bonzadog wrote:
>
>> That is an interesting entray. I am looking for an alternative to Keil
>> and am playing with the idea of the 150 Rowley Crossworks.
>> Your article will help me selecting a new IDE.
>> The CrossConnect though costs about 250 which is a bit of steep an
>> financial outlay for an experimenter - but perhaps worth it.
>> Is thee no alternative to the CrossConnect?
> Heck--the CrossConnect Lite is a $60 purchase on top of the CrossWorks license when you purchase them together. That's 40% off the price right there If you get a Classic, it's $200. And if you talk to the right person nicely, they usually comp you a CrossConnect Lite.
>
> -- Paul.
>
Paul,
The Lite is a nice tip...I'll take a look. I am not up on american
colloquillisms but I assume that "comp you a ..." means "to give
you a...." .
I'll be ordering over Internet so no "right person"..... :-)
Reading most of the entries unter this topic, it looks as though
it'S the Rowley for me: IDE + JTAG.
bd
>
>
> On 11 Mar 2012, at 08:16, bonzadog wrote:
>
>> That is an interesting entray. I am looking for an alternative to Keil
>> and am playing with the idea of the 150 Rowley Crossworks.
>> Your article will help me selecting a new IDE.
>> The CrossConnect though costs about 250 which is a bit of steep an
>> financial outlay for an experimenter - but perhaps worth it.
>> Is thee no alternative to the CrossConnect?
> Heck--the CrossConnect Lite is a $60 purchase on top of the CrossWorks license when you purchase them together. That's 40% off the price right there If you get a Classic, it's $200. And if you talk to the right person nicely, they usually comp you a CrossConnect Lite.
>
> -- Paul.
>
Paul,
The Lite is a nice tip...I'll take a look. I am not up on american
colloquillisms but I assume that "comp you a ..." means "to give
you a...." .
I'll be ordering over Internet so no "right person"..... :-)
Reading most of the entries unter this topic, it looks as though
it'S the Rowley for me: IDE + JTAG.
bd
>
>
Reply by ●March 11, 20122012-03-11
Don't give up so easily... I suspect either Paul is the right person
himself, or he knows who he/she is.
On 11/03/2012 20:38, Bonzadog wrote:
> Am 11.03.2012 17:12, schrieb Paul Curtis:
>> On 11 Mar 2012, at 08:16, bonzadog wrote:
>>
>>> That is an interesting entray. I am looking for an alternative to Keil
>>> and am playing with the idea of the 150 Rowley Crossworks.
>>> Your article will help me selecting a new IDE.
>>> The CrossConnect though costs about 250 which is a bit of steep an
>>> financial outlay for an experimenter - but perhaps worth it.
>>> Is thee no alternative to the CrossConnect?
>> Heck--the CrossConnect Lite is a $60 purchase on top of the CrossWorks license when you purchase them together. That's 40% off the price right there If you get a Classic, it's $200. And if you talk to the right person nicely, they usually comp you a CrossConnect Lite.
>>
>> -- Paul.
>>
> Paul,
>
> The Lite is a nice tip...I'll take a look. I am not up on american
> colloquillisms but I assume that "comp you a ..." means "to give
> you a...." .
> I'll be ordering over Internet so no "right person"..... :-)
>
> Reading most of the entries unter this topic, it looks as though
> it'S the Rowley for me: IDE + JTAG.
>
> bd
>
>>
himself, or he knows who he/she is.
On 11/03/2012 20:38, Bonzadog wrote:
> Am 11.03.2012 17:12, schrieb Paul Curtis:
>> On 11 Mar 2012, at 08:16, bonzadog wrote:
>>
>>> That is an interesting entray. I am looking for an alternative to Keil
>>> and am playing with the idea of the 150 Rowley Crossworks.
>>> Your article will help me selecting a new IDE.
>>> The CrossConnect though costs about 250 which is a bit of steep an
>>> financial outlay for an experimenter - but perhaps worth it.
>>> Is thee no alternative to the CrossConnect?
>> Heck--the CrossConnect Lite is a $60 purchase on top of the CrossWorks license when you purchase them together. That's 40% off the price right there If you get a Classic, it's $200. And if you talk to the right person nicely, they usually comp you a CrossConnect Lite.
>>
>> -- Paul.
>>
> Paul,
>
> The Lite is a nice tip...I'll take a look. I am not up on american
> colloquillisms but I assume that "comp you a ..." means "to give
> you a...." .
> I'll be ordering over Internet so no "right person"..... :-)
>
> Reading most of the entries unter this topic, it looks as though
> it'S the Rowley for me: IDE + JTAG.
>
> bd
>
>>
