Is this where PC boxes are heading?
$400USD for a PC that runs on 20W of power, and can bolt to the back of 
an LCD monitor.

It's the Asus EEE revolution doing it's thing again.

http://event.asus.com/eeepc/microsites/eeebox/en/index.html
http://forum.eeeuser.com/viewforum.php?id=51

what's more, they are sticking with XP as an operating system.

Cheers Don...



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On Mon, 18 Aug 2008 17:16:44 +1000, Don McKenzie <5V@2.5A> wrote:

>Is this where PC boxes are heading?
>$400USD for a PC that runs on 20W of power, and can bolt to the back of 
>an LCD monitor.

200 USD 1 off, 6w, VESA mount; DOS, WinCE, WinXP or Linux, Ethernet,
3xUSB, 2xRS232, 24 x GPIO ...
  http://www.mpeforth.com/ebox.htm
and many other places.

Stephen


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MicroProcessor Engineering Ltd - More Real, Less Time
133 Hill Lane, Southampton SO15 5AF, England
tel: +44 (0)23 8063 1441, fax: +44 (0)23 8033 9691
web: http://www.mpeforth.com - free VFX Forth downloads

Stephen Pelc wrote:
> On Mon, 18 Aug 2008 17:16:44 +1000, Don McKenzie <5V@2.5A> wrote:
> 
> 
>>Is this where PC boxes are heading?
>>$400USD for a PC that runs on 20W of power, and can bolt to the back of 
>>an LCD monitor.
> 
> 
> 200 USD 1 off, 6w, VESA mount; DOS, WinCE, WinXP or Linux, Ethernet,
> 3xUSB, 2xRS232, 24 x GPIO ...
>   http://www.mpeforth.com/ebox.htm
> and many other places.

Interesting - no mention of inbuilt Flash ?
- What this product needs, is an internal USB socket, so you can
fit a USB Flash drive, safely inside away from harms reach..

-jg

On Mon, 18 Aug 2008 22:07:25 +1200, Jim Granville
<n...@designtools.maps.co.nz> wrote:

>Stephen Pelc wrote:
>> 200 USD 1 off, 6w, VESA mount; DOS, WinCE, WinXP or Linux, Ethernet,
>> 3xUSB, 2xRS232, 24 x GPIO ...
>>   http://www.mpeforth.com/ebox.htm
>> and many other places.
>
>Interesting - no mention of inbuilt Flash ?
>- What this product needs, is an internal USB socket, so you can
>fit a USB Flash drive, safely inside away from harms reach..

Mass storage is usually a Compact Flash card in the front slot.
It's a good tight fit.

Internal expansion is through a miniPCI connector, which is
also used for a WiFi card if needed.

Stephen


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MicroProcessor Engineering Ltd - More Real, Less Time
133 Hill Lane, Southampton SO15 5AF, England
tel: +44 (0)23 8063 1441, fax: +44 (0)23 8033 9691
web: http://www.mpeforth.com - free VFX Forth downloads

"Don McKenzie" <5V@2.5A> a écrit dans le message de news: 
6...@mid.individual.net...
>
> Is this where PC boxes are heading?
> $400USD for a PC that runs on 20W of power, and can bolt to the back of an 
> LCD monitor.
>
> It's the Asus EEE revolution doing it's thing again.
>
> http://event.asus.com/eeepc/microsites/eeebox/en/index.html
> http://forum.eeeuser.com/viewforum.php?id=51
>
> what's more, they are sticking with XP as an operating system.

295$ / 5W alternative : www.fit-pc.com
Cheers,
Robert

"Robert Lacoste" <use-contact-at-www-alciom-com-for-email>; wrote in
news:48a95ad3$0$886$b...@news.orange.fr: 
 
> 295$ / 5W alternative : www.fit-pc.com
> Cheers,
> Robert

or: <http://www.pcengines.ch/alix.htm>;

Bye Jack
-- 
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- Jim Belushi

On Aug 18, 6:26 am, stephen...@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) wrote:
> On Mon, 18 Aug 2008 22:07:25 +1200, Jim Granville
>
> <no.s...@designtools.maps.co.nz> wrote:
> >Stephen Pelc wrote:
> >> 200 USD 1 off, 6w, VESA mount; DOS, WinCE, WinXP or Linux, Ethernet,
> >> 3xUSB, 2xRS232, 24 x GPIO ...
> >>  http://www.mpeforth.com/ebox.htm
> >> and many other places.
>
> >Interesting - no mention of inbuilt Flash ?
> >- What this product needs, is an internal USB socket, so you can
> >fit a USB Flash drive, safely inside away from harms reach..
>
> Mass storage is usually a Compact Flash card in the front slot.
> It's a good tight fit.

Yes, I suppose if you had an embedded application Compact Flash could
be a useful mass storage format.  But for the general commerical
market, there is no reason to use anything other than SD cards or USB
sticks.  These formats may be limited to around 16 GB or so at the
moment, but that is all I had on my PC some 5 years ago and a I would
be very happy starting with that on such a portable unit today.

Compact Flash or any of the other memory formats are for niche
applcations today and most will be gone in another two years.  I think
people will still be using floppy disks longer than most of these
memory stick formats.  (I still have an excellent camera that uses
floppies).

> Internal expansion is through a miniPCI connector, which is
> also used for a WiFi card if needed.

I also saw mention of IDE 44.  Is there room for an internal rotating
disk drive like they use in the iPods?

Rick

On Mon, 18 Aug 2008 06:32:37 -0700 (PDT), TehPron
<s...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>Yes, I suppose if you had an embedded application Compact Flash could
>be a useful mass storage format.

It's here, available, ex-stock and cheap. It is what it is. I'm not
advocating it for anything other than embedded or industrial use. At
least CompactFlash has a mechnical standard, so you know what you are
dealing with. As far as I know, USB sticks have no mechanical standard
beyond the USB connector.

>I also saw mention of IDE 44.  Is there room for an internal rotating
>disk drive like they use in the iPods?

Yes.

Stephen


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MicroProcessor Engineering Ltd - More Real, Less Time
133 Hill Lane, Southampton SO15 5AF, England
tel: +44 (0)23 8063 1441, fax: +44 (0)23 8033 9691
web: http://www.mpeforth.com - free VFX Forth downloads

> It's here, available, ex-stock and cheap. It is what it is. I'm not
> advocating it for anything other than embedded or industrial use. At
> least CompactFlash has a mechnical standard, so you know what you are
> dealing with. As far as I know, USB sticks have no mechanical standard
> beyond the USB connector.

It also has the advantage that IDE / SATA to CF adaptors are available at very 
reasonable prices (I bought 2 for a fiver off of eBay) and mean that they can be 
mounted internally to most PC cases.

-- 
Boo

On Aug 18, 12:28 pm, Boo <reply_to_group_not_me@spam_me_no_spam.net>
wrote:
> > It's here, available, ex-stock and cheap. It is what it is. I'm not
> > advocating it for anything other than embedded or industrial use. At
> > least CompactFlash has a mechnical standard, so you know what you are
> > dealing with. As far as I know, USB sticks have no mechanical standard
> > beyond the USB connector.
>
> It also has the advantage that IDE / SATA to CF adaptors are available at very
> reasonable prices (I bought 2 for a fiver off of eBay) and mean that they can be
> mounted internally to most PC cases.

And it has the big disadvantage that you can't plug it into most
desktops or laptops without a special adapter.  Unless you need a
capacity that currently (this week anyway) exceeds what is available
in SD format, I don't see any reason to go with such a large and
clumsy format.  I guess there are applications where you want users to
be able to remove the storage and the SD or USB format is so small
that they are likely to loose it.  But then a CF sized box should do
the trick for an SD card or USB stick, or a dozen.

Needing to have a mechanical spec for a USB stick seems to be an odd
requirement.  If there is not a spec out there, define your own spec
for your mounting and specify a few units that meet that spec.  This
isn't rocket science.. at least I don't think it is.  Are these things
going on the shuttle?

Rick