Op Sat, 05 Jul 2008 01:42:40 +0200 schreef Jack Klein  
<j...@spamcop.net>:
> On Fri, 4 Jul 2008 00:00:11 -0700 (PDT), rickman <g...@gmail.com>
> wrote in comp.arch.embedded:
> Since the OEM price for Vista to manufacturers like Dell is the same
> as XP was, you can look at it like this.  You pay the price for XP Pro
> (installed and ready to run) and get a Vista Business upgrade disk,
> for the remote possibility that you would ever want to, for free.

Disputable.  The machine I bought last November went from ¤1254 to ¤1596,
in exactly the same configuration, except the CPU (T7500 -> T8300) and the
OS (XP -> Vista).



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larwe wrote:

<snip>
> I do have a Toshiba convertible/tablet machine that I use to take
> handwritten notes. I also have an Eee 2G Surf, but really I just
> bought it because it is such a fun toy. It's so cool to be in a bar
> and whip out this pocket-sized PC, hitch a ride on the bar's WiFi [I
> have no idea...] and telnet into a machine to check something or demo
> something to the people I'm talking to.

I can do the same with my pen-based handheld from 1999/2000 that cost
me only $10.00, has a transreflective color display for bright outdoors
use, a reliable touch screen, and every standard port and slot imaginable.

WinCE isn't much fun, but fortunately a few masochists have done a lot
of grunt work and posted the fruits of their labors on the net.  I have
a decent streaming media player, perl for scripting, stunnel for secure
connections (currently used for the RDP client into a terminal server),
and even an X11 server on it.  It has the standard 'pocket office' suite
and a command line and so far is the most useful truly portable device
that I have.

Adding a wearable keyboard is my next goal, a question about which I've
asked in another post.

Michael

On Jul 7, 10:31=A0am, msg <m...@_cybertheque.org_> wrote:

> > bought it because it is such a fun toy. It's so cool to be in a bar
> > and whip out this pocket-sized PC, hitch a ride on the bar's WiFi [I
> > have no idea...] and telnet into a machine to check something or demo
> > something to the people I'm talking to.
>
> I can do the same with my pen-based handheld from 1999/2000 that cost
> me only $10.00, has a transreflective color display for bright outdoors

Sure, I used to have a Cassiopeia A-11A and later I had an E-200 or
something of that ilk; I don't recall the vintage but the A-11A was a
WinCE 1.0 box :). What I like about the Eee (besides its standard USB,
SD and VGA ports and OpenOffice) is that it runs a regular x86 Linux
distro and has enough horsepower to compile its own kernel and apps
natively without needing to mess around with cross-compilers etc.

On Jul 7, 10:31 am, msg <m...@_cybertheque.org_> wrote:
> larwe wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
> > I do have a Toshiba convertible/tablet machine that I use to take
> > handwritten notes. I also have an Eee 2G Surf, but really I just
> > bought it because it is such a fun toy. It's so cool to be in a bar
> > and whip out this pocket-sized PC, hitch a ride on the bar's WiFi [I
> > have no idea...] and telnet into a machine to check something or demo
> > something to the people I'm talking to.
>
> I can do the same with my pen-based handheld from 1999/2000 that cost
> me only $10.00, has a transreflective color display for bright outdoors
> use, a reliable touch screen, and every standard port and slot imaginable.
>
> WinCE isn't much fun, but fortunately a few masochists have done a lot
> of grunt work and posted the fruits of their labors on the net.  I have
> a decent streaming media player, perl for scripting, stunnel for secure
> connections (currently used for the RDP client into a terminal server),
> and even an X11 server on it.  It has the standard 'pocket office' suite
> and a command line and so far is the most useful truly portable device
> that I have.
>
> Adding a wearable keyboard is my next goal, a question about which I've
> asked in another post.
>
> Michael

I would be very interested in a unit like this.  What device is it?
Are you saying that you can access WiFi networks with a unit from
2000?  Is this though an expansion card of some sort?  I don't care so
much about WiFi, but I would love to be able to talk to a Bluetooth
GPS and run GPS apps.  If it is WinCE it should be able to do the
latter.

Rick

rickman wrote:

> On Jul 7, 10:31 am, msg <m...@_cybertheque.org_> wrote:

<snip>
>>I can do the same with my pen-based handheld from 1999/2000 that cost
>>me only $10.00, has a transreflective color display for bright outdoors
>>use, a reliable touch screen, and every standard port and slot imaginable.


<snip>
> 
> I would be very interested in a unit like this.  What device is it?
> Are you saying that you can access WiFi networks with a unit from
> 2000?  Is this though an expansion card of some sort?  I don't care so
> much about WiFi, but I would love to be able to talk to a Bluetooth
> GPS and run GPS apps.  If it is WinCE it should be able to do the
> latter.

Any MIPS/SH3/ARM handheld from WinCE 2.11 days with 640x480 color display;
My Pencentra has two PC card slots which I've populated with an Orinoco
Gold WiFi card and a CF card; it also has USB host, RS-232, and PS/2 kbd
ports and half-duplex audio in/out.  I intend to run moving-map GPS
software on it (I've already monitored NMEA sentences in 'terminal')
if I can convince 'Teletype GPS' to release their version 3.0 for MIPS
again (was EOL some years ago), or find a copy from a previous user.
There is a 'trial version' downloadable from Tucows which works well
on my handheld except that it is GPS-disabled.

I managed to locate some previous employees of 'Teletype' to get
names to contact as my emails to support and sales departments have
been ignored.  Having a few other folks make a similar request to
the firm may elicit some response.

Michael

On Fri, 4 Jul 2008 15:45:54 -0700 (PDT), larwe <z...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>On Jul 4, 3:08 pm, rickman <gnu...@gmail.com> wrote:
<snip>


>handwritten notes. I also have an Eee 2G Surf, but really I just
>bought it because it is such a fun toy. It's so cool to be in a bar
>and whip out this pocket-sized PC, hitch a ride on the bar's WiFi [I
>have no idea...] and telnet into a machine to check something or demo
>something to the people I'm talking to.

I hate to burst your bubble, but whipping out any computer device in a
bar is NOT cool. ;)