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XMOS XC-1 kits are shipping - Leon - 09:01 10-10-08

I've just ordered my 1600 MIPS XMOS XC-1 design kit.

The XMOS chips will replace DSPs and FPGAs in a lot of applications.

I haven't been so excited about a new chip since the transputer came
out. David May designed them both, of course.

Leon
l...@btinternet.com



Re: XMOS XC-1 kits are shipping - 12:42 10-10-08

On Oct 10, 9:01=A0pm, Leon <leon...@btinternet.com> wrote:
> I've just ordered my 1600 MIPS XMOS XC-1 design kit.
>
> The XMOS chips will replace DSPs and FPGAs in a lot of applications.
>
> I haven't been so excited about a new chip since the transputer came
> out. David May designed them both, of course.
>
> Leon
> leon...@btinternet.com

Is the comparison with the Transputer supposed to imply this is a half
thought out design with brain dead execution? :-\

Steve

Re: XMOS XC-1 kits are shipping - Benjamin Couillard - 13:11 10-10-08

On 10 oct, 09:01, Leon <leon...@btinternet.com> wrote:
> I've just ordered my 1600 MIPS XMOS XC-1 design kit.
>
> The XMOS chips will replace DSPs and FPGAs in a lot of applications.
>
> I haven't been so excited about a new chip since the transputer came
> out. David May designed them both, of course.
>
> Leon
> leon...@btinternet.com

Don't be surprised if people are skeptical.

Remember what happened to the company that made Field-programmable-
object arrays?

Re: XMOS XC-1 kits are shipping - Leon - 13:43 10-10-08

On 10 Oct, 17:42, ste...@coppice.org wrote:
> On Oct 10, 9:01=A0pm, Leon <leon...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>
> > I've just ordered my 1600 MIPS XMOS XC-1 design kit.
>
> > The XMOS chips will replace DSPs and FPGAs in a lot of applications.
>
> > I haven't been so excited about a new chip since the transputer came
> > out. David May designed them both, of course.
>
> > Leon
> > leon...@btinternet.com
>
> Is the comparison with the Transputer supposed to imply this is a half
> thought out design with brain dead execution? :-\
>
> Steve

The transputer was ahead of its time, and really pushed the technology
that was available. I sold a lot of systems using it, mostly to
universities and research establishments, because there was nothing
else around with that sort of performance then. Inmos even had their
own fab!

Leon



Re: XMOS XC-1 kits are shipping - Leon - 13:44 10-10-08

On 10 Oct, 18:11, Benjamin Couillard <benjamin.couill...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> On 10 oct, 09:01, Leon <leon...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>
> > I've just ordered my 1600 MIPS XMOS XC-1 design kit.
>
> > The XMOS chips will replace DSPs and FPGAs in a lot of applications.
>
> > I haven't been so excited about a new chip since the transputer came
> > out. David May designed them both, of course.
>
> > Leon
> > leon...@btinternet.com
>
> Don't be surprised if people are skeptical.
>
> Remember what happened to the company that made Field-programmable-
> object arrays?

These are processors, not FPGAs.

Leon

Re: XMOS XC-1 kits are shipping - Benjamin Couillard - 10:57 11-10-08

On 10 oct, 13:44, Leon <leon...@btinternet.com> wrote:
> On 10 Oct, 18:11, Benjamin Couillard <benjamin.couill...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On 10 oct, 09:01, Leon <leon...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>
> > > I've just ordered my 1600 MIPS XMOS XC-1 design kit.
>
> > > The XMOS chips will replace DSPs and FPGAs in a lot of applications.
>
> > > I haven't been so excited about a new chip since the transputer came
> > > out. David May designed them both, of course.
>
> > > Leon
> > > leon...@btinternet.com
>
> > Don't be surprised if people are skeptical.
>
> > Remember what happened to the company that made Field-programmable-
> > object arrays?
>
> These are processors, not FPGAs.
>
> Leon


Re: XMOS XC-1 kits are shipping - Benjamin Couillard - 10:59 11-10-08

On 10 oct, 13:44, Leon <leon...@btinternet.com> wrote:
> On 10 Oct, 18:11, Benjamin Couillard <benjamin.couill...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On 10 oct, 09:01, Leon <leon...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>
> > > I've just ordered my 1600 MIPS XMOS XC-1 design kit.
>
> > > The XMOS chips will replace DSPs and FPGAs in a lot of applications.
>
> > > I haven't been so excited about a new chip since the transputer came
> > > out. David May designed them both, of course.
>
> > > Leon
> > > leon...@btinternet.com
>
> > Don't be surprised if people are skeptical.
>
> > Remember what happened to the company that made Field-programmable-
> > object arrays?
>
> These are processors, not FPGAs.
>
> Leon

I'm well aware of that, I'm just saying that we shouldn't always
believe the hype. I'll believe it when I see it..

Re: XMOS XC-1 kits are shipping - Joerg - 15:25 11-10-08

Leon wrote:
> On 10 Oct, 17:42, ste...@coppice.org wrote:
>> On Oct 10, 9:01 pm, Leon <leon...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I've just ordered my 1600 MIPS XMOS XC-1 design kit.
>>> The XMOS chips will replace DSPs and FPGAs in a lot of applications.
>>> I haven't been so excited about a new chip since the transputer came
>>> out. David May designed them both, of course.
>>> Leon
>>> leon...@btinternet.com
>> Is the comparison with the Transputer supposed to imply this is a half
>> thought out design with brain dead execution? :-\
>>
>> Steve
> 
> The transputer was ahead of its time, and really pushed the technology
> that was available. I sold a lot of systems using it, mostly to
> universities and research establishments, because there was nothing
> else around with that sort of performance then. Inmos even had their
> own fab!
> 

I met a guy from the transputer design team down in the Bryce Canyon 
(here in the US). Unfortunately that company seemed to have lacked 
marketing savvy just like Plessey and many others. Great products (well, 
most of them) but that doesn't get you anywhere unless you can nail the 
next step, the deal. It's probably similar to engineer-driven car 
manufacturers like Borgward. A seasoned car mechanic here in the US told 
me that these were among the most well designed and quality built cars 
ever. But ...

Of course I secured a small stash of Plessey SL6440 mixers before it all 
imploded.

-- 
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/

"gmail" domain blocked because of excessive spam.
Use another domain or send PM.

Re: XMOS XC-1 kits are shipping - HardySpicer - 15:33 11-10-08

On Oct 11, 6:43=A0am, Leon <leon...@btinternet.com> wrote:
> On 10 Oct, 17:42, ste...@coppice.org wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Oct 10, 9:01=A0pm, Leon <leon...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>
> > > I've just ordered my 1600 MIPS XMOS XC-1 design kit.
>
> > > The XMOS chips will replace DSPs and FPGAs in a lot of applications.
>
> > > I haven't been so excited about a new chip since the transputer came
> > > out. David May designed them both, of course.
>
> > > Leon
> > > leon...@btinternet.com
>
> > Is the comparison with the Transputer supposed to imply this is a half
> > thought out design with brain dead execution? :-\
>
> > Steve
>
> The transputer was ahead of its time, and really pushed the technology
> that was available. I sold a lot of systems using it, mostly to
> universities and research establishments, because there was nothing
> else around with that sort of performance then. Inmos even had their
> own fab!
>
> Leon

Yes at the time it was way ahead. Trouble is that there was not many
people who had given thought to paralel computing back then - even now
it is experimental on the whole and not mainstream.
Another machine of the time was made by Linn Products who make Hi-Fi..

http://portal.acm.org/citation.cfm?doid=3D381711.381716


 It was a small-talk machine called Recusiv  - fully Object Orientated
- again way ahead of its time. People had just started using C and
were still using Fortran.
Assembler was the only low level language available.


Hardy

Re: XMOS XC-1 kits are shipping - Leon - 15:34 11-10-08

On 11 Oct, 20:25, Joerg <notthisjoerg...@removethispacbell.net> wrote:
> Leon wrote:
> > On 10 Oct, 17:42, ste...@coppice.org wrote:
> >> On Oct 10, 9:01 pm, Leon <leon...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>
> >>> I've just ordered my 1600 MIPS XMOS XC-1 design kit.
> >>> The XMOS chips will replace DSPs and FPGAs in a lot of applications.
> >>> I haven't been so excited about a new chip since the transputer came
> >>> out. David May designed them both, of course.
> >>> Leon
> >>> leon...@btinternet.com
> >> Is the comparison with the Transputer supposed to imply this is a half
> >> thought out design with brain dead execution? :-\
>
> >> Steve
>
> > The transputer was ahead of its time, and really pushed the technology
> > that was available. I sold a lot of systems using it, mostly to
> > universities and research establishments, because there was nothing
> > else around with that sort of performance then. Inmos even had their
> > own fab!
>
> I met a guy from the transputer design team down in the Bryce Canyon
> (here in the US). Unfortunately that company seemed to have lacked
> marketing savvy just like Plessey and many others. Great products (well,
> most of them) but that doesn't get you anywhere unless you can nail the
> next step, the deal. It's probably similar to engineer-driven car
> manufacturers like Borgward. A seasoned car mechanic here in the US told
> me that these were among the most well designed and quality built cars
> ever. But ...


After they married, my brother used his wife's Borgward Isabella. It
wasn't bad, apart from the slippery bench seat in the front. I didn't
close the door properly once, slid across the seat when he cornered
rather fast and nearly fell out of the door when it opened. Cars
didn't have seat belts in those days, of course.

Leon

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