Jesica at The Bot Shop,
I purchased an OOpic-C chip and board from you in November of 07.
Through no fault of yours the product did not work as advertised. I thought and
OOpic tech support thought that it was a hardware problem. You were kind enough
to replace it for me. Then we found out it was really the compiler. Savage
promised a fix by May 08. Now it is August 08 and Savage industries just sent
the OOpic forum the following comments:

2 - All previous version of ooPic ie. S,R and C will be considered
> > legacy products at this time and will no longer be manufactured.
In
> > addition we will be no longer supporting these items.
> >
> > 3 - All versions of the compiler will also go on the unsupported
> > legacy list.

As I write this Ted is on the forum trying to do some double speak about how
they have to abandon these products because they just don't sell anymore.
They only sold two in July.
I don't expect you to bad mouth any product or company I know that's bad
business, But for the customers sake would you please have anybody that is
thinking about choosing between a OOpic and something else to please read the
OOpic forum on Yahoo to get a clear picture of the kind of support that they
will get.
Thank you again for your help David Davis

**************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget?
Read reviews on AOL Autos.
(http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00050000000017 )
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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David there is no double speak at all as you put it. It is simply a
matter of economics.

If you would have read all of my posts I did state I will try and get
SS to look into oEvents again if nothing else to put the compiler to
bed happy.

Jessica as The Bot Shop has been a great outlet for SI/ooPic and
still is until she states differently. Yes, she has excellent CS and
Yes we have crappy CS. We can get better, thats where I get to come
in. Try to put out fires before they burn. Jessica was the first and
still first listed outlet for the ooBug because of her efforts and
CS. She will be a retailer for the ooBug until I see a letter or
email from her stating otherwise.

If we just can't do it for you then we are sorry. We will try and
make the next guy happy.

Ted

--- In o...@yahoogroups.com, dldlhfd@... wrote:
>
> Jesica at The Bot Shop,
> I purchased an OOpic-C chip and board from you in November of
07.
> Through no fault of yours the product did not work as advertised.
I thought and
> OOpic tech support thought that it was a hardware problem. You
were kind enough
> to replace it for me. Then we found out it was really the
compiler. Savage
> promised a fix by May 08. Now it is August 08 and Savage
industries just sent
> the OOpic forum the following comments:
>
> 2 - All previous version of ooPic ie. S,R and C will be considered
> > > legacy products at this time and will no longer be
manufactured.
> In
> > > addition we will be no longer supporting these items.
> > >
> > > 3 - All versions of the compiler will also go on the
unsupported
> > > legacy list.
>
> As I write this Ted is on the forum trying to do some double speak
about how
> they have to abandon these products because they just don't sell
anymore.
> They only sold two in July.
> I don't expect you to bad mouth any product or company I know
that's bad
> business, But for the customers sake would you please have anybody
that is
> thinking about choosing between a OOpic and something else to
please read the
> OOpic forum on Yahoo to get a clear picture of the kind of support
that they
> will get.
> Thank you again for your help David Davis
>
>
>
> **************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your
budget?
> Read reviews on AOL Autos.
> (http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review?
ncid=aolaut00050000000017 )
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

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I am probably closing down The BotShop due to this whole mess. New
guy has been miserable to deal with. I have completed unpaid projects
and started new ones (which I am no longer working on) only to have
them hijacked and/ or bastardized by him. I'm over it just as much
as the customers are.

I'm so sorry you guys are having to deal with this frustration.

--- In o...@yahoogroups.com, "theo570" wrote:
>
> David there is no double speak at all as you put it. It is simply a
> matter of economics.
>
> If you would have read all of my posts I did state I will try and
get
> SS to look into oEvents again if nothing else to put the compiler
to
> bed happy.
>
> Jessica as The Bot Shop has been a great outlet for SI/ooPic and
> still is until she states differently. Yes, she has excellent CS
and
> Yes we have crappy CS. We can get better, thats where I get to come
> in. Try to put out fires before they burn. Jessica was the first
and
> still first listed outlet for the ooBug because of her efforts and
> CS. She will be a retailer for the ooBug until I see a letter or
> email from her stating otherwise.
>
> If we just can't do it for you then we are sorry. We will try and
> make the next guy happy.
>
> Ted
> --- In o...@yahoogroups.com, dldlhfd@ wrote:
> >
> > Jesica at The Bot Shop,
> > I purchased an OOpic-C chip and board from you in November
of
> 07.
> > Through no fault of yours the product did not work as
advertised.
> I thought and
> > OOpic tech support thought that it was a hardware problem. You
> were kind enough
> > to replace it for me. Then we found out it was really the
> compiler. Savage
> > promised a fix by May 08. Now it is August 08 and Savage
> industries just sent
> > the OOpic forum the following comments:
> >
> > 2 - All previous version of ooPic ie. S,R and C will be
considered
> > > > legacy products at this time and will no longer be
> manufactured.
> > In
> > > > addition we will be no longer supporting these items.
> > > >
> > > > 3 - All versions of the compiler will also go on the
> unsupported
> > > > legacy list.
> >
> > As I write this Ted is on the forum trying to do some double
speak
> about how
> > they have to abandon these products because they just don't sell
> anymore.
> > They only sold two in July.
> > I don't expect you to bad mouth any product or company I
know
> that's bad
> > business, But for the customers sake would you please have
anybody
> that is
> > thinking about choosing between a OOpic and something else to
> please read the
> > OOpic forum on Yahoo to get a clear picture of the kind of
support
> that they
> > will get.
> > Thank you again for your help David Davis
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > **************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in
your
> budget?
> > Read reviews on AOL Autos.
> > (http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review?
> ncid=aolaut00050000000017 )
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
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OK Jess,

You are going to try and bring this public and so far I have resisted
but what the hell, even I get mad after awhile.

1 - The Bot Shop was in trouble (by your own words via phone) LONG
before I was offered a partnership in SI.

2 - "New guy" and "this guy"? Is that to give the public the
impression that we have not worked together off and on for say 5
maybe 6 years?

3 - We didn't seem to miserable when we were laughing and joking at
Scotts expense a few months ago on the phone.

4 - Anything you claim unpaid was before me becoming a partner so how
does that fit? Actually it goes back to the partnership with Pentar...

5 - None of your graphics were hijacked because none were selected
for use. You did make a killer blister pack art package,
unfortunately we are not using a blister pack. If we were, we would
be using it. I did call Gates and nope, no one ever agreed to pay for
that if it was unused.

6 - the umm 1986 web design... LOL IT IS YOUR WORK. Yes we will
indeed change it as the new one is about done. I don't think we can
claim that one unpaid and we both know why... let that dog sleep.

7 - Yea, I know you are pissed that the EDU board did not sell thus
your manual did not get used. We can't help it if a product was a
dismal flop. What did we sell, 10 - 15. I know there are over a
hundred in stock for the last year. You are not the only one not
getting paid on the EDU board. I spent 6 months trying to find a
vendor or a school to buy them... Do keep in mind the SI EDU board
was in the works way before I even brought the ooBug to the table and
even then I thought it was a silly product, almost a backstep if you
will. I never expected it to sell and said as much to SI and Pentar.

8 - It was just a few months ago when you and I had a long phone call
and most of the topic was the failing of TBS. Did I not offer you all
of my ooBug mod kit ideas and did I not agree to not sell them myself
if it would help YOU out?

Jess, you are acting like someone dropped you and it just never
happened. Do not take out your frustrations on me because you are
having business financial woes. We have been e or phone friends for
quite awhile.

Ted
Savage Innovations

--- In o...@yahoogroups.com, "jesicaflow" wrote:
>
> I am probably closing down The BotShop due to this whole mess. New
> guy has been miserable to deal with. I have completed unpaid
projects
> and started new ones (which I am no longer working on) only to have
> them hijacked and/ or bastardized by him. I'm over it just as much
> as the customers are.
>
> I'm so sorry you guys are having to deal with this frustration.
>
> --- In o...@yahoogroups.com, "theo570" wrote:
> >
> > David there is no double speak at all as you put it. It is simply
a
> > matter of economics.
> >
> > If you would have read all of my posts I did state I will try and
> get
> > SS to look into oEvents again if nothing else to put the compiler
> to
> > bed happy.
> >
> > Jessica as The Bot Shop has been a great outlet for SI/ooPic and
> > still is until she states differently. Yes, she has excellent CS
> and
> > Yes we have crappy CS. We can get better, thats where I get to
come
> > in. Try to put out fires before they burn. Jessica was the first
> and
> > still first listed outlet for the ooBug because of her efforts
and
> > CS. She will be a retailer for the ooBug until I see a letter or
> > email from her stating otherwise.
> >
> > If we just can't do it for you then we are sorry. We will try and
> > make the next guy happy.
> >
> > Ted
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In o...@yahoogroups.com, dldlhfd@ wrote:
> > >
> > > Jesica at The Bot Shop,
> > > I purchased an OOpic-C chip and board from you in November
> of
> > 07.
> > > Through no fault of yours the product did not work as
> advertised.
> > I thought and
> > > OOpic tech support thought that it was a hardware problem. You
> > were kind enough
> > > to replace it for me. Then we found out it was really the
> > compiler. Savage
> > > promised a fix by May 08. Now it is August 08 and Savage
> > industries just sent
> > > the OOpic forum the following comments:
> > >
> > > 2 - All previous version of ooPic ie. S,R and C will be
> considered
> > > > > legacy products at this time and will no longer be
> > manufactured.
> > > In
> > > > > addition we will be no longer supporting these items.
> > > > >
> > > > > 3 - All versions of the compiler will also go on the
> > unsupported
> > > > > legacy list.
> > >
> > > As I write this Ted is on the forum trying to do some double
> speak
> > about how
> > > they have to abandon these products because they just don't
sell
> > anymore.
> > > They only sold two in July.
> > > I don't expect you to bad mouth any product or company I
> know
> > that's bad
> > > business, But for the customers sake would you please have
> anybody
> > that is
> > > thinking about choosing between a OOpic and something else to
> > please read the
> > > OOpic forum on Yahoo to get a clear picture of the kind of
> support
> > that they
> > > will get.
> > > Thank you again for your help David Davis
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > **************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in
> your
> > budget?
> > > Read reviews on AOL Autos.
> > > (http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review?
> > ncid=aolaut00050000000017 )
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
>
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This should not be posted in a public forum. There is nothing
beneficial to the OOPIC community here. It is quite obivious that we
are all frustrated. Savage has said that he will fix the oEvent for
us which is the main thing that we wanted.

So, why don't we get this forum back to helping people with problems
that we can fix and keep the politics to a minimum. We have people
here with years of knowledge and when we collaborate, we can do
anything.

--- In o...@yahoogroups.com, "theo570" wrote:
>
> OK Jess,
>
> You are going to try and bring this public and so far I have
resisted
> but what the hell, even I get mad after awhile.
>
> 1 - The Bot Shop was in trouble (by your own words via phone) LONG
> before I was offered a partnership in SI.
>
> 2 - "New guy" and "this guy"? Is that to give the public the
> impression that we have not worked together off and on for say 5
> maybe 6 years?
>
> 3 - We didn't seem to miserable when we were laughing and joking at
> Scotts expense a few months ago on the phone.
>
> 4 - Anything you claim unpaid was before me becoming a partner so
how
> does that fit? Actually it goes back to the partnership with
Pentar...
>
> 5 - None of your graphics were hijacked because none were selected
> for use. You did make a killer blister pack art package,
> unfortunately we are not using a blister pack. If we were, we would
> be using it. I did call Gates and nope, no one ever agreed to pay
for
> that if it was unused.
>
> 6 - the umm 1986 web design... LOL IT IS YOUR WORK. Yes we will
> indeed change it as the new one is about done. I don't think we can
> claim that one unpaid and we both know why... let that dog sleep.
>
> 7 - Yea, I know you are pissed that the EDU board did not sell thus
> your manual did not get used. We can't help it if a product was a
> dismal flop. What did we sell, 10 - 15. I know there are over a
> hundred in stock for the last year. You are not the only one not
> getting paid on the EDU board. I spent 6 months trying to find a
> vendor or a school to buy them... Do keep in mind the SI EDU board
> was in the works way before I even brought the ooBug to the table
and
> even then I thought it was a silly product, almost a backstep if
you
> will. I never expected it to sell and said as much to SI and Pentar.
>
> 8 - It was just a few months ago when you and I had a long phone
call
> and most of the topic was the failing of TBS. Did I not offer you
all
> of my ooBug mod kit ideas and did I not agree to not sell them
myself
> if it would help YOU out?
>
> Jess, you are acting like someone dropped you and it just never
> happened. Do not take out your frustrations on me because you are
> having business financial woes. We have been e or phone friends for
> quite awhile.
>
> Ted
> Savage Innovations
> --- In o...@yahoogroups.com, "jesicaflow" wrote:
> >
> > I am probably closing down The BotShop due to this whole mess.
New
> > guy has been miserable to deal with. I have completed unpaid
> projects
> > and started new ones (which I am no longer working on) only to
have
> > them hijacked and/ or bastardized by him. I'm over it just as
much
> > as the customers are.
> >
> > I'm so sorry you guys are having to deal with this frustration.
> >
> > --- In o...@yahoogroups.com, "theo570" wrote:
> > >
> > > David there is no double speak at all as you put it. It is
simply
> a
> > > matter of economics.
> > >
> > > If you would have read all of my posts I did state I will try
and
> > get
> > > SS to look into oEvents again if nothing else to put the
compiler
> > to
> > > bed happy.
> > >
> > > Jessica as The Bot Shop has been a great outlet for SI/ooPic
and
> > > still is until she states differently. Yes, she has excellent
CS
> > and
> > > Yes we have crappy CS. We can get better, thats where I get to
> come
> > > in. Try to put out fires before they burn. Jessica was the
first
> > and
> > > still first listed outlet for the ooBug because of her efforts
> and
> > > CS. She will be a retailer for the ooBug until I see a letter
or
> > > email from her stating otherwise.
> > >
> > > If we just can't do it for you then we are sorry. We will try
and
> > > make the next guy happy.
> > >
> > > Ted
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In o...@yahoogroups.com, dldlhfd@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Jesica at The Bot Shop,
> > > > I purchased an OOpic-C chip and board from you in
November
> > of
> > > 07.
> > > > Through no fault of yours the product did not work as
> > advertised.
> > > I thought and
> > > > OOpic tech support thought that it was a hardware problem.
You
> > > were kind enough
> > > > to replace it for me. Then we found out it was really the
> > > compiler. Savage
> > > > promised a fix by May 08. Now it is August 08 and Savage
> > > industries just sent
> > > > the OOpic forum the following comments:
> > > >
> > > > 2 - All previous version of ooPic ie. S,R and C will be
> > considered
> > > > > > legacy products at this time and will no longer be
> > > manufactured.
> > > > In
> > > > > > addition we will be no longer supporting these items.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 3 - All versions of the compiler will also go on the
> > > unsupported
> > > > > > legacy list.
> > > >
> > > > As I write this Ted is on the forum trying to do some double
> > speak
> > > about how
> > > > they have to abandon these products because they just don't
> sell
> > > anymore.
> > > > They only sold two in July.
> > > > I don't expect you to bad mouth any product or company I
> > know
> > > that's bad
> > > > business, But for the customers sake would you please have
> > anybody
> > > that is
> > > > thinking about choosing between a OOpic and something else
to
> > > please read the
> > > > OOpic forum on Yahoo to get a clear picture of the kind of
> > support
> > > that they
> > > > will get.
> > > > Thank you again for your help David Davis
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > **************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits
in
> > your
> > > budget?
> > > > Read reviews on AOL Autos.
> > > > (http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review?
> > > ncid=aolaut00050000000017 )
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > >
> > >
>
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I whole heartedly agree! I really did not want to make that post but
the dog can only lay in the shade getting kicked for so long. ooPic
problems I can handle, SI problems I can handle but when it starts to
get personal I bite back.

Now that we can start to move along... I am looking for content for
the all new and improved SI Robot Projects website. I need blurbs and
pics of any and all ooPic, Soundgin etc based projects. I do hope the
users community has something. Your projects do not need to be robots
by common definition, just simply ooPic based circuits are cool. If
you can try to include source code. Please post under the topic of
ROBOT PROJECTS so I can find em' easily.

Thanks,

Ted
Savage Innovations
--- In o...@yahoogroups.com, "tinslwc" wrote:
>
> This should not be posted in a public forum. There is nothing
> beneficial to the OOPIC community here. It is quite obivious that
we
> are all frustrated. Savage has said that he will fix the oEvent
for
> us which is the main thing that we wanted.
>
> So, why don't we get this forum back to helping people with
problems
> that we can fix and keep the politics to a minimum. We have people
> here with years of knowledge and when we collaborate, we can do
> anything.
>
> --- In o...@yahoogroups.com, "theo570" wrote:
> >
> > OK Jess,
> >
> > You are going to try and bring this public and so far I have
> resisted
> > but what the hell, even I get mad after awhile.
> >
> > 1 - The Bot Shop was in trouble (by your own words via phone)
LONG
> > before I was offered a partnership in SI.
> >
> > 2 - "New guy" and "this guy"? Is that to give the public the
> > impression that we have not worked together off and on for say 5
> > maybe 6 years?
> >
> > 3 - We didn't seem to miserable when we were laughing and joking
at
> > Scotts expense a few months ago on the phone.
> >
> > 4 - Anything you claim unpaid was before me becoming a partner so
> how
> > does that fit? Actually it goes back to the partnership with
> Pentar...
> >
> > 5 - None of your graphics were hijacked because none were
selected
> > for use. You did make a killer blister pack art package,
> > unfortunately we are not using a blister pack. If we were, we
would
> > be using it. I did call Gates and nope, no one ever agreed to pay
> for
> > that if it was unused.
> >
> > 6 - the umm 1986 web design... LOL IT IS YOUR WORK. Yes we will
> > indeed change it as the new one is about done. I don't think we
can
> > claim that one unpaid and we both know why... let that dog sleep.
> >
> > 7 - Yea, I know you are pissed that the EDU board did not sell
thus
> > your manual did not get used. We can't help it if a product was a
> > dismal flop. What did we sell, 10 - 15. I know there are over a
> > hundred in stock for the last year. You are not the only one not
> > getting paid on the EDU board. I spent 6 months trying to find a
> > vendor or a school to buy them... Do keep in mind the SI EDU
board
> > was in the works way before I even brought the ooBug to the table
> and
> > even then I thought it was a silly product, almost a backstep if
> you
> > will. I never expected it to sell and said as much to SI and
Pentar.
> >
> > 8 - It was just a few months ago when you and I had a long phone
> call
> > and most of the topic was the failing of TBS. Did I not offer you
> all
> > of my ooBug mod kit ideas and did I not agree to not sell them
> myself
> > if it would help YOU out?
> >
> > Jess, you are acting like someone dropped you and it just never
> > happened. Do not take out your frustrations on me because you are
> > having business financial woes. We have been e or phone friends
for
> > quite awhile.
> >
> > Ted
> > Savage Innovations
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In o...@yahoogroups.com, "jesicaflow" wrote:
> > >
> > > I am probably closing down The BotShop due to this whole mess.
> New
> > > guy has been miserable to deal with. I have completed unpaid
> > projects
> > > and started new ones (which I am no longer working on) only to
> have
> > > them hijacked and/ or bastardized by him. I'm over it just as
> much
> > > as the customers are.
> > >
> > > I'm so sorry you guys are having to deal with this frustration.
> > >
> > > --- In o...@yahoogroups.com, "theo570" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > David there is no double speak at all as you put it. It is
> simply
> > a
> > > > matter of economics.
> > > >
> > > > If you would have read all of my posts I did state I will try
> and
> > > get
> > > > SS to look into oEvents again if nothing else to put the
> compiler
> > > to
> > > > bed happy.
> > > >
> > > > Jessica as The Bot Shop has been a great outlet for SI/ooPic
> and
> > > > still is until she states differently. Yes, she has excellent
> CS
> > > and
> > > > Yes we have crappy CS. We can get better, thats where I get
to
> > come
> > > > in. Try to put out fires before they burn. Jessica was the
> first
> > > and
> > > > still first listed outlet for the ooBug because of her
efforts
> > and
> > > > CS. She will be a retailer for the ooBug until I see a letter
> or
> > > > email from her stating otherwise.
> > > >
> > > > If we just can't do it for you then we are sorry. We will try
> and
> > > > make the next guy happy.
> > > >
> > > > Ted
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In o...@yahoogroups.com, dldlhfd@ wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Jesica at The Bot Shop,
> > > > > I purchased an OOpic-C chip and board from you in
> November
> > > of
> > > > 07.
> > > > > Through no fault of yours the product did not work as
> > > advertised.
> > > > I thought and
> > > > > OOpic tech support thought that it was a hardware problem.
> You
> > > > were kind enough
> > > > > to replace it for me. Then we found out it was really the
> > > > compiler. Savage
> > > > > promised a fix by May 08. Now it is August 08 and Savage
> > > > industries just sent
> > > > > the OOpic forum the following comments:
> > > > >
> > > > > 2 - All previous version of ooPic ie. S,R and C will be
> > > considered
> > > > > > > legacy products at this time and will no longer be
> > > > manufactured.
> > > > > In
> > > > > > > addition we will be no longer supporting these items.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 3 - All versions of the compiler will also go on the
> > > > unsupported
> > > > > > > legacy list.
> > > > >
> > > > > As I write this Ted is on the forum trying to do some
double
> > > speak
> > > > about how
> > > > > they have to abandon these products because they just
don't
> > sell
> > > > anymore.
> > > > > They only sold two in July.
> > > > > I don't expect you to bad mouth any product or company
I
> > > know
> > > > that's bad
> > > > > business, But for the customers sake would you please have
> > > anybody
> > > > that is
> > > > > thinking about choosing between a OOpic and something else
> to
> > > > please read the
> > > > > OOpic forum on Yahoo to get a clear picture of the kind of
> > > support
> > > > that they
> > > > > will get.
> > > > > Thank you again for your help David Davis
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > **************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits
> in
> > > your
> > > > budget?
> > > > > Read reviews on AOL Autos.
> > > > > (http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review?
> > > > ncid=aolaut00050000000017 )
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
>
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How about a web-enabled OOPic. I have a setup that gives the OOPic a
web front end with bi-directional communication. I have a custom PCB
laid out for this application. It is about the size of the S-Board
and contains all of the required hardware, including a homemade
multiplexer for the RS232.

--- In o...@yahoogroups.com, "theo570" wrote:
>
> I whole heartedly agree! I really did not want to make that post
but
> the dog can only lay in the shade getting kicked for so long. ooPic
> problems I can handle, SI problems I can handle but when it starts
to
> get personal I bite back.
>
> Now that we can start to move along... I am looking for content for
> the all new and improved SI Robot Projects website. I need blurbs
and
> pics of any and all ooPic, Soundgin etc based projects. I do hope
the
> users community has something. Your projects do not need to be
robots
> by common definition, just simply ooPic based circuits are cool. If
> you can try to include source code. Please post under the topic of
> ROBOT PROJECTS so I can find em' easily.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ted
> Savage Innovations
> --- In o...@yahoogroups.com, "tinslwc" wrote:
> >
> > This should not be posted in a public forum. There is nothing
> > beneficial to the OOPIC community here. It is quite obivious
that
> we
> > are all frustrated. Savage has said that he will fix the oEvent
> for
> > us which is the main thing that we wanted.
> >
> > So, why don't we get this forum back to helping people with
> problems
> > that we can fix and keep the politics to a minimum. We have
people
> > here with years of knowledge and when we collaborate, we can do
> > anything.
> >
> > --- In o...@yahoogroups.com, "theo570" wrote:
> > >
> > > OK Jess,
> > >
> > > You are going to try and bring this public and so far I have
> > resisted
> > > but what the hell, even I get mad after awhile.
> > >
> > > 1 - The Bot Shop was in trouble (by your own words via phone)
> LONG
> > > before I was offered a partnership in SI.
> > >
> > > 2 - "New guy" and "this guy"? Is that to give the public the
> > > impression that we have not worked together off and on for say
5
> > > maybe 6 years?
> > >
> > > 3 - We didn't seem to miserable when we were laughing and
joking
> at
> > > Scotts expense a few months ago on the phone.
> > >
> > > 4 - Anything you claim unpaid was before me becoming a partner
so
> > how
> > > does that fit? Actually it goes back to the partnership with
> > Pentar...
> > >
> > > 5 - None of your graphics were hijacked because none were
> selected
> > > for use. You did make a killer blister pack art package,
> > > unfortunately we are not using a blister pack. If we were, we
> would
> > > be using it. I did call Gates and nope, no one ever agreed to
pay
> > for
> > > that if it was unused.
> > >
> > > 6 - the umm 1986 web design... LOL IT IS YOUR WORK. Yes we will
> > > indeed change it as the new one is about done. I don't think we
> can
> > > claim that one unpaid and we both know why... let that dog
sleep.
> > >
> > > 7 - Yea, I know you are pissed that the EDU board did not sell
> thus
> > > your manual did not get used. We can't help it if a product was
a
> > > dismal flop. What did we sell, 10 - 15. I know there are over a
> > > hundred in stock for the last year. You are not the only one
not
> > > getting paid on the EDU board. I spent 6 months trying to find
a
> > > vendor or a school to buy them... Do keep in mind the SI EDU
> board
> > > was in the works way before I even brought the ooBug to the
table
> > and
> > > even then I thought it was a silly product, almost a backstep
if
> > you
> > > will. I never expected it to sell and said as much to SI and
> Pentar.
> > >
> > > 8 - It was just a few months ago when you and I had a long
phone
> > call
> > > and most of the topic was the failing of TBS. Did I not offer
you
> > all
> > > of my ooBug mod kit ideas and did I not agree to not sell them
> > myself
> > > if it would help YOU out?
> > >
> > > Jess, you are acting like someone dropped you and it just never
> > > happened. Do not take out your frustrations on me because you
are
> > > having business financial woes. We have been e or phone friends
> for
> > > quite awhile.
> > >
> > > Ted
> > > Savage Innovations
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In o...@yahoogroups.com, "jesicaflow" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I am probably closing down The BotShop due to this whole
mess.
> > New
> > > > guy has been miserable to deal with. I have completed unpaid
> > > projects
> > > > and started new ones (which I am no longer working on) only
to
> > have
> > > > them hijacked and/ or bastardized by him. I'm over it just
as
> > much
> > > > as the customers are.
> > > >
> > > > I'm so sorry you guys are having to deal with this
frustration.
> > > >
> > > > --- In o...@yahoogroups.com, "theo570" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > David there is no double speak at all as you put it. It is
> > simply
> > > a
> > > > > matter of economics.
> > > > >
> > > > > If you would have read all of my posts I did state I will
try
> > and
> > > > get
> > > > > SS to look into oEvents again if nothing else to put the
> > compiler
> > > > to
> > > > > bed happy.
> > > > >
> > > > > Jessica as The Bot Shop has been a great outlet for
SI/ooPic
> > and
> > > > > still is until she states differently. Yes, she has
excellent
> > CS
> > > > and
> > > > > Yes we have crappy CS. We can get better, thats where I get
> to
> > > come
> > > > > in. Try to put out fires before they burn. Jessica was the
> > first
> > > > and
> > > > > still first listed outlet for the ooBug because of her
> efforts
> > > and
> > > > > CS. She will be a retailer for the ooBug until I see a
letter
> > or
> > > > > email from her stating otherwise.
> > > > >
> > > > > If we just can't do it for you then we are sorry. We will
try
> > and
> > > > > make the next guy happy.
> > > > >
> > > > > Ted
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In o...@yahoogroups.com, dldlhfd@ wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Jesica at The Bot Shop,
> > > > > > I purchased an OOpic-C chip and board from you in
> > November
> > > > of
> > > > > 07.
> > > > > > Through no fault of yours the product did not work as
> > > > advertised.
> > > > > I thought and
> > > > > > OOpic tech support thought that it was a hardware
problem.
> > You
> > > > > were kind enough
> > > > > > to replace it for me. Then we found out it was really
the
> > > > > compiler. Savage
> > > > > > promised a fix by May 08. Now it is August 08 and Savage
> > > > > industries just sent
> > > > > > the OOpic forum the following comments:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 2 - All previous version of ooPic ie. S,R and C will be
> > > > considered
> > > > > > > > legacy products at this time and will no longer be
> > > > > manufactured.
> > > > > > In
> > > > > > > > addition we will be no longer supporting these items.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 3 - All versions of the compiler will also go on the
> > > > > unsupported
> > > > > > > > legacy list.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > As I write this Ted is on the forum trying to do some
> double
> > > > speak
> > > > > about how
> > > > > > they have to abandon these products because they just
> don't
> > > sell
> > > > > anymore.
> > > > > > They only sold two in July.
> > > > > > I don't expect you to bad mouth any product or
company
> I
> > > > know
> > > > > that's bad
> > > > > > business, But for the customers sake would you please
have
> > > > anybody
> > > > > that is
> > > > > > thinking about choosing between a OOpic and something
else
> > to
> > > > > please read the
> > > > > > OOpic forum on Yahoo to get a clear picture of the kind
of
> > > > support
> > > > > that they
> > > > > > will get.
> > > > > > Thank you again for your help David Davis
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > **************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and
fits
> > in
> > > > your
> > > > > budget?
> > > > > > Read reviews on AOL Autos.
> > > > > > (http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review?
> > > > > ncid=aolaut00050000000017 )
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
>
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Hey, that sounds cool.

I did change the Topic name so as not to be confusing...

Go ahead and send me what you want to appear on the web. Include
name, location etc.. what you want on the web for your viewing public.

Ted
Savage Innovations

--- In o...@yahoogroups.com, "tinslwc" wrote:
>
> How about a web-enabled OOPic. I have a setup that gives the OOPic
a
> web front end with bi-directional communication. I have a custom
PCB
> laid out for this application. It is about the size of the S-Board
> and contains all of the required hardware, including a homemade
> multiplexer for the RS232.
>

------------------------------------



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Ted, if you REALLY didn't want to make that post, you should delete
it since you KNOW you were lying and further causing damage to a
company that has up until this point, been nothing but supportive.

--- In o...@yahoogroups.com, "theo570" wrote:
>
> I whole heartedly agree! I really did not want to make that post
but
> the dog can only lay in the shade getting kicked for so long. ooPic
> problems I can handle, SI problems I can handle but when it starts
to
> get personal I bite back.
>
> Now that we can start to move along... I am looking for content for
> the all new and improved SI Robot Projects website. I need blurbs
and
> pics of any and all ooPic, Soundgin etc based projects. I do hope
the
> users community has something. Your projects do not need to be
robots
> by common definition, just simply ooPic based circuits are cool. If
> you can try to include source code. Please post under the topic of
> ROBOT PROJECTS so I can find em' easily.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ted
> Savage Innovations
> --- In o...@yahoogroups.com, "tinslwc" wrote:
> >
> > This should not be posted in a public forum. There is nothing
> > beneficial to the OOPIC community here. It is quite obivious
that
> we
> > are all frustrated. Savage has said that he will fix the oEvent
> for
> > us which is the main thing that we wanted.
> >
> > So, why don't we get this forum back to helping people with
> problems
> > that we can fix and keep the politics to a minimum. We have
people
> > here with years of knowledge and when we collaborate, we can do
> > anything.
> >
> > --- In o...@yahoogroups.com, "theo570" wrote:
> > >
> > > OK Jess,
> > >
> > > You are going to try and bring this public and so far I have
> > resisted
> > > but what the hell, even I get mad after awhile.
> > >
> > > 1 - The Bot Shop was in trouble (by your own words via phone)
> LONG
> > > before I was offered a partnership in SI.
> > >
> > > 2 - "New guy" and "this guy"? Is that to give the public the
> > > impression that we have not worked together off and on for say
5
> > > maybe 6 years?
> > >
> > > 3 - We didn't seem to miserable when we were laughing and
joking
> at
> > > Scotts expense a few months ago on the phone.
> > >
> > > 4 - Anything you claim unpaid was before me becoming a partner
so
> > how
> > > does that fit? Actually it goes back to the partnership with
> > Pentar...
> > >
> > > 5 - None of your graphics were hijacked because none were
> selected
> > > for use. You did make a killer blister pack art package,
> > > unfortunately we are not using a blister pack. If we were, we
> would
> > > be using it. I did call Gates and nope, no one ever agreed to
pay
> > for
> > > that if it was unused.
> > >
> > > 6 - the umm 1986 web design... LOL IT IS YOUR WORK. Yes we will
> > > indeed change it as the new one is about done. I don't think we
> can
> > > claim that one unpaid and we both know why... let that dog
sleep.
> > >
> > > 7 - Yea, I know you are pissed that the EDU board did not sell
> thus
> > > your manual did not get used. We can't help it if a product was
a
> > > dismal flop. What did we sell, 10 - 15. I know there are over a
> > > hundred in stock for the last year. You are not the only one
not
> > > getting paid on the EDU board. I spent 6 months trying to find
a
> > > vendor or a school to buy them... Do keep in mind the SI EDU
> board
> > > was in the works way before I even brought the ooBug to the
table
> > and
> > > even then I thought it was a silly product, almost a backstep
if
> > you
> > > will. I never expected it to sell and said as much to SI and
> Pentar.
> > >
> > > 8 - It was just a few months ago when you and I had a long
phone
> > call
> > > and most of the topic was the failing of TBS. Did I not offer
you
> > all
> > > of my ooBug mod kit ideas and did I not agree to not sell them
> > myself
> > > if it would help YOU out?
> > >
> > > Jess, you are acting like someone dropped you and it just never
> > > happened. Do not take out your frustrations on me because you
are
> > > having business financial woes. We have been e or phone friends
> for
> > > quite awhile.
> > >
> > > Ted
> > > Savage Innovations
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In o...@yahoogroups.com, "jesicaflow" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I am probably closing down The BotShop due to this whole
mess.
> > New
> > > > guy has been miserable to deal with. I have completed unpaid
> > > projects
> > > > and started new ones (which I am no longer working on) only
to
> > have
> > > > them hijacked and/ or bastardized by him. I'm over it just
as
> > much
> > > > as the customers are.
> > > >
> > > > I'm so sorry you guys are having to deal with this
frustration.
> > > >
> > > > --- In o...@yahoogroups.com, "theo570" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > David there is no double speak at all as you put it. It is
> > simply
> > > a
> > > > > matter of economics.
> > > > >
> > > > > If you would have read all of my posts I did state I will
try
> > and
> > > > get
> > > > > SS to look into oEvents again if nothing else to put the
> > compiler
> > > > to
> > > > > bed happy.
> > > > >
> > > > > Jessica as The Bot Shop has been a great outlet for
SI/ooPic
> > and
> > > > > still is until she states differently. Yes, she has
excellent
> > CS
> > > > and
> > > > > Yes we have crappy CS. We can get better, thats where I get
> to
> > > come
> > > > > in. Try to put out fires before they burn. Jessica was the
> > first
> > > > and
> > > > > still first listed outlet for the ooBug because of her
> efforts
> > > and
> > > > > CS. She will be a retailer for the ooBug until I see a
letter
> > or
> > > > > email from her stating otherwise.
> > > > >
> > > > > If we just can't do it for you then we are sorry. We will
try
> > and
> > > > > make the next guy happy.
> > > > >
> > > > > Ted
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In o...@yahoogroups.com, dldlhfd@ wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Jesica at The Bot Shop,
> > > > > > I purchased an OOpic-C chip and board from you in
> > November
> > > > of
> > > > > 07.
> > > > > > Through no fault of yours the product did not work as
> > > > advertised.
> > > > > I thought and
> > > > > > OOpic tech support thought that it was a hardware
problem.
> > You
> > > > > were kind enough
> > > > > > to replace it for me. Then we found out it was really
the
> > > > > compiler. Savage
> > > > > > promised a fix by May 08. Now it is August 08 and Savage
> > > > > industries just sent
> > > > > > the OOpic forum the following comments:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 2 - All previous version of ooPic ie. S,R and C will be
> > > > considered
> > > > > > > > legacy products at this time and will no longer be
> > > > > manufactured.
> > > > > > In
> > > > > > > > addition we will be no longer supporting these items.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 3 - All versions of the compiler will also go on the
> > > > > unsupported
> > > > > > > > legacy list.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > As I write this Ted is on the forum trying to do some
> double
> > > > speak
> > > > > about how
> > > > > > they have to abandon these products because they just
> don't
> > > sell
> > > > > anymore.
> > > > > > They only sold two in July.
> > > > > > I don't expect you to bad mouth any product or
company
> I
> > > > know
> > > > > that's bad
> > > > > > business, But for the customers sake would you please
have
> > > > anybody
> > > > > that is
> > > > > > thinking about choosing between a OOpic and something
else
> > to
> > > > > please read the
> > > > > > OOpic forum on Yahoo to get a clear picture of the kind
of
> > > > support
> > > > > that they
> > > > > > will get.
> > > > > > Thank you again for your help David Davis
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > **************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and
fits
> > in
> > > > your
> > > > > budget?
> > > > > > Read reviews on AOL Autos.
> > > > > > (http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review?
> > > > > ncid=aolaut00050000000017 )
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
>
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